An Open Letter to Farhad Moshiri

Trevor Powell 23/11/2019 88comments  |  Jump to last
To Farhad Moshiri,

I am writing to you not to criticise your devotion to Everton Football Club but to offer some constructive thoughts for you to consider.

You very bravely took on the task of restoring EFC to the highest echelons of football, not only in the Premier League but also on the world stage, with investment in players and the vision of a new stadium.

I think now that you must take stock of your input into the EFC 'Project' and realise that your true value to the club as a businessman and not a football man.

In a few short years, you have invested an unprecedented outlay on players and been let down by the staff responsible for sourcing the right player fits.

However, this is your money and you have appointed the managers and chief scouts. Popular thought believes that you have made these appointments based on advice from a theatre impresario rather than a football man with one exception being the present incumbent Marco Silva.

If I am correct you personally identified the potential in Marco Silva whist watching Arsenal FC playing at home and losing unexpectedly to Olympiakos in a Champions League group game in 2015. Apparently, you believed this to be a defining moment in your understanding of the beautiful game and would stop at nothing to Bring Silva to work for you.

You are clearly a very successful and intelligent man. George Bush Jnr. was not considered a particularly exceptional USA Presidential candidate even by his own Republican party. However, Bush's time was not as disastrous as forecasts had suggested, but why? GWB surrounded himself with much more accomplished advisers and listened to them!

Mr. Moshiri, just who has had your ear with matters of playing football? Bill Kenwright is not a football man and will never be! Ronald Koeman was a football man but really wanted to elsewhere e.g. Catalonia. The less said for Steve Walsh, a football man but out of his depth in the transfer market and then of course Sam Alladyce!

One of the most controversial Football Club Chairmen was the late Bob Lord, the 'Khrushchev of Burnley' whose aim was to apply a successful business strategy, and more often succeeded.

My late father saw him interviewed in the early seventies when he proffered the thought that too many successful businessmen, entrepreneurs etc who took over clubs and managed with their hearts rather their heads. These emotional owners, he claimed seem unable to apply their own business principles in running football clubs, paying over the odds for players, paying exorbitant wages and immersing themselves in the cultural history of their club as examples.

How are you approaching the ownership of the club? Are you able to remove the destructive sentimentality evidenced by Rooney' return, Duncan Ferguson position as a coach and the EFC and now your blind, unconditional respect for Marco Silva? The managers who have been shown the door did not perform significantly worse than Marco Silva.

I believe it may be very hard for you to admit that your 'dream manager' is failing. I believe that you may be conflicted in such a way that you are in a state of denial that the manager of a Greek side could outplay an elite team so comprehensively is not producing the goods at EFC. This dream is fading fast and the easiest person we can ever fool is ourselves.

Yours sincerely,

Trevor Powell

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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:14:47
Trevor, judging by the way you spell certain words, I leap to the assumption that you are not an American. Those of us who are Yanks would appreciate your not attempting to rewrite US history in making your case to Mr. Moshiri.

George W. Bush was, in fact, an absolute catastrophe as president. On his watch the US suffered a horrendous terrorist attack that could have been prevented (and allowed the perpetrator to escape justice), launched a massively costly war under deliberately falsified pretenses, and experienced a fraud-based market crash and economic meltdown that all but collapsed our financial system and permanently destroyed or damaged the finances of tens of millions of Americans. His "accomplished advisers" were the liars and clowns who perpetrated these frauds.

If there is one example that Everton's owner should not follow, it is the one you cited.

Colin Glassar
2 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:23:21
I second Mike. GWB was a complete and utter disaster who surrounded himself with lunatics like Rumsfeld, Cheney and Condi Rice who took the world to the brink.

Saying that, he’s a saint compared to the moron who currently resides in the WH.

Trevor Powell
3 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:26:09
Mike, I am not American and I did not do justice to my letter in explaining Bush, who like Trump I can not stand. The point wass that he surrounded himself that the Repulican Party seemd to endorse as available to give him advice. In terms of Moshiri, I feel he has to get good advisers around him, not emotional and sentimental people who seem to believe that so many former Everton players can should be re-employed in other roles.
On reflection, I am sorry that I offended you and perhaps, can you re-write that paragraph.
Paul A Smith
4 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:30:16
This story is a disaster too. Where was the letter when we sold Lukaku and never replaced him? Or the one about the 4 great youngsters we could have built a team around like Stones Deulofeu Lukaku Barkley? With Davies Calvert Lewin and Holgate not far behind them?

Just another anti Kenwright critic being choosy and inconsistant about what is right or wrong with the club.

I see time and time again that principles are very selective when it comes to discussing our issues.

Michael Barrett
5 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:30:32
Fuck the American shite...the club is rotten to the core and has been for years...iam embarrassed to walk the streets of this great city with them fuckers across the park going to piss the league and we capitulate to NORWICH..that's my open letter
Mike Gaynes
6 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:30:42
Yes, Colin, by all accounts he bears no resemblance on a personal level to the Oval's despicable incumbent... but he did far more irreversible damage to America with his fecklessness than Trump has with his perversion. Bush's legacy includes thousands of dead Americans, our best and brightest. Trump's harm is less gruesome.

Trevor, "offended" would be too strong a word, but I was certainly jarred by the comparison. Thank you for your thoughtful response.

Jay Harris
7 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:32:26
I will second second Mike G's view on George W but also point out that you are being too kind to Mr cunning and devious Kenwright. He is the one who thinks it is still his club and the one who should be running things his way.

The sooner him and his cronies are run out of Evertton the sooner we can start the rebuilding process.

Be in no doubt Trevor Silva is done. Today was the first game ever where the whole board attended together.

The problem is Kenwright has Moyes lined up to take over.

Colin Glassar
8 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:35:14
Sounds like Marco has another game to “prove” himself. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Mike Gaynes
9 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:39:16
Jay #7:

"The problem is Kenwright has Moyes lined up to take over."

Is that supposition on your part or have you seen evidence or news coverage to that effect?

I'm always a little confused by the various TW assertions that Kenwright is still making the football decisions -- I thought Silva was Moshiri's pick, and I also thought Brands as DOF is now making those calls. Why am I mistaken here?

If it's their call, I can't imagine Moshiri and Brands picking Moyes. They have no previous connection with him. May never have met the guy.

Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:46:14
BTW, here's one supporter who definitely thinks Bill is the decision-maker (uploaded by Phil Kirkbride):

Richard Nelson
12 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:55:11
How sad to see, politics brought into play.. in our hour of need...all I can say is, I don't mind the present incumbent of the White House, simply because... he's not a Democrat !
Colin Glassar
13 Posted 23/11/2019 at 20:57:46
No, he’s a corrupt, lying, racist, tyrant in waiting, Richard.
Rob Marsh
14 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:03:38
Mike Gaynes # 1

I'm with you on GWB Jr.

What surprises me is that America actually voted for him in the first place? I didn't follow that election too closely, but his PR people must have done an amazing job in concealing his lack of intellect and assumed knowledge that the CEO of America must have to do their job effectively.

Maybe, I should be asking questions of the electorate also? The upcoming election here will be fought by a clown, a communist and a Meryl Streep wannabe, it will not be one of this nations finest moments.

Richard Nelson
16 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:09:06
They all are Colin, its the old adage, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story and all lets get on with replacing the tyrant that's bringing our great club to its knee's...!
Andy Crooks
17 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:10:11
Holy fuck. Mr Moshiri must be wetting his pants. Not just a letter, an OPEN letter. That's it sorted then.
Sean Kelly
18 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:30:58
I want to know who opened the letter. Was it schneids
Mark Guglielmo
19 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:31:34
Hang on a second...what began as a really good letter turned into, what? George W. Bush Jr. being...not a disaster? I lost my train of thought and forgot all that I just read.

Rob @15, actually we didn't vote for him, but well, American politics blah blah blah. Sorry, I don't want this to derail into politics.

Trevor, I read the whole letter now, and skipped that paragraph, and it's excellent. Good piece, lad.

Sean Kelly
20 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:41:30
WTchin Flamenco v river plate. Wish we had one or two of triver plate players Suarez for starters but then again he wouldn’t start til 21/22 season. Adapting.
Derek Knox
21 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:42:44
Andy, that is if he has even read it, or filed it with the disposable paper cups. However there are some valid and hard-hitting true points in it's content, I just hope they collectively (the Board) come to a decision which is in in the best interests of Everton Football Club and the fans, and soon.

I also hope they have learnt lessons from the past, and whoever is appointed, whether it be temporary or on a more permanent basis, that a suitable contract is offered.

By that I mean, a reasonable time scale of tenure, contracts can always be extended if success follows. But as in Silva's case, 3 years was ridiculous, as he will walk away with a handsome sum for failure.

Terry Hughes
22 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:42:51
Was Trevor in the midst of a crack cocaine session when he wrote this ‘open letter’ to Moshiri? He veers off topic so many times and rambles on about irrelevant subjects that it’s a bit of a painful read. If Silva had anything about him he would hold up his hands and resign immediately but we all know he’s a complete fraud so he’ll wait to be sacked. Really hope his sacking happens tomorrow or Monday morning at the latest.
Paul Hewitt
23 Posted 23/11/2019 at 21:52:03
I've got an open letter to Moshiri. Take your millions and joke of a manager. And fuck off.
James Stewart
24 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:01:33
@23 I will happily sign that letter Paul.
Colin Glassar
25 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:03:21
Sean, Barboza and Everton Ribeiro looked the real deal.
Mike Gaynes
26 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:06:22
Rob #14, actually Bush's more-qualified opponent got more votes nationally, but because of the state-by-state electoral college here, Bush was declared the winner. The decision also required one state (Florida), where thousands of voters had been improperly disqualified, to ask the Supreme Court to allow them to stop counting votes. And the Court, to its everlasting discredit, agreed. Even Bush's supporters now wish he hadn't taken office.

The opponent, Al Gore, was also something of a stiff who didn't have much appeal. He's much more popular now as a climate-change crusader, where he has shed his stuffed-shirt image.

The current crook in the White House also got fewer votes than his opponent. See, our system is as imperfect as yours, albeit in different ways.

Mike Gaynes
27 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:07:33
Sean, if I was gonna take anybody from River Plate, it would be their young and brilliant manager.
Andrew Ellams
28 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:10:35
We've heard the 'Kenwright lining up Moyes' story before. I have zero faith in Moshiri, he has no clue about football as he is in it to build the stadium and then sell for a profit.
Sean Kelly
29 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:13:44
Here's a letter to Moshiri – and I don't need an envelope.

Fuck off. Sell up and take Silva, Boa Morte, Ferfusin, Kenwright, and at least a dozen of your failing players with you. You have exacerbated our demise while we hoped. This club is empty.

It's soulless and heading like a Nottingham forest. A once great club never to be again. My consolation is I was there before you when we won league titles without the sticky fingers of a money-grabbing board with no ambition.

What have you got? A burning hole in your pocket and a dream of an amphibious stadium that will never be built.

What have I got? The great memories of watching Ball, Kendall, Southall, Reid, Gray and managers like Catterick and Kendall getting great football out of some average players.

You can do one coz I don't believe in your dream. Mine came through years before you or Kenwright arrived.

Jim Bennings
30 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:15:47
I will lose all faith in Moshiri if he is coaxed into going down that road of back to David Moyes.

Would Tottenham go back to Glenn Hoddle or Harry Redknapp?

Liverpool turn back again to Kenny Dalglish a third time?


So why on God’s earth do we turn to another manager that spent a decade here with no success and no wins away to the top four (as it was)?

Alex Gray
32 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:21:28
Trevor, there's a lack of constructive thoughts for Moshiri here... even if you have opened up a debate on American politics, I wouldn't encourage you to send.
Michael Barrett
33 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:24:28
Sean Kelly, I couldn't have put it better myself... top post.
Andy Crooks
34 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:25:07
Paul @ 23. Don't know why but I just love that post. Cuts to the chase, no nonsense, no shit.

The Collected Letters of Paul Hewitt is on my Christmas list.

Andy Crooks
35 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:28:40
Sean, each glass of wine that I neck makes your posts better and better.
Rob Marsh
37 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:37:25
Mike Gaynes #26,

Doesn't that sum the whole thing up?

"Democracy: Everybody gets what nobody wants!"

Sean Kelly
38 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:39:59
Thanks, Andy and Michael. It gives me no pleasure having to rant but I'm old school. If it needs to be said, say it. You can always pick up the pieces later.

Let's hope some see sense and gets things sorted before the unthinkable happens. The evil ones across the park winning the league while we head south... Fucking horrible thought.

John Raftery
39 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:40:25
Jim (30), But Liverpool did turn back to Dalglish a second time to halt their decline before appointing managers who could move them forward. We desperately need someone to halt our decline and quickly. The vision thing, the project thing, the style thing can all wait until we stabilise. Appointing Moyes would be far from ideal but we need someone of his ilk. Not Mark Hughes though.
Jim Bennings
41 Posted 23/11/2019 at 22:46:24

The difference though is Dalglish was a proven winner and won the League Cup on his return in 2012.

Moyes is well and truly a journeyman now and, if we did appoint him, then for me it's just the Allardyce thing all over again.

Col Hinchliff
42 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:11:43
I'm new to the site but a lifelong bluenose and therefore as manically depressed as the rest of you.

Remembering the horrendous days of Mike Walker and that hamper seller from woolly back land, I have to admit to a lot of respect for Kenwright, Moshiri and Dan Meis. At least they've given us some hope that the glory days of John Moores & co could return.

Ok, things are shite at the moment. And it hurts that them across the park are flying. And I'm not sure that Silva is the right man. But let's not chuck put the baby with the bath water - without Moshiri, where will the cash come from? He may not know a huge amount about the game but he seems to have bought into the club ethos.

Just be thankful we haven't got a Russian oligarch, a dodgy Saudi sheik, a chicken farmer or Mike Ashley in charge! Or be bankrupt like Bury.

Fingers crossed for a few miracles. Might go to Mass tomorrow!

Joe McMahon
43 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:19:11
Jim, let's not forget Allardyce won at Anfield with Palace and kept Sunderland in the Premier League. Something Moyes never managed.

Like everyone I'm rather concerned where our club is going the year the shite win the titles.

Mike Gaynes
44 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:35:56
Moshiri's not going anywhere. It's his club, his millions and his reputation. And for me he's showing the best of intentions.

That said, Moshiri made a bad mistake -- not just in the manager he hired, but in hiring him before he hired his DOF. We will never know whether Brands would have hired Silva. Moshiri's correction now would be punting Silva and having Brands hire the manager he chooses.

And if Brands makes the call, it sure as hell won't be Moyes.

Mike Doyle
45 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:57:25
How we could do with a bit of the single-minded determination show by Sir John Moore’s a few decades ago, the LFC board a few years ago - or Tottenham’s a few days ago.
Clubs who have a serious interest in being successful don’t carry on like we are at present.
Brace yourselves for Monday’s gripping announcement about what EiTC are doing next (or similar irrelevant news).
Ciarán McGlone
46 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:59:05
Haha.. first proper comment on the article from Mr Crooks..


Rob Marsh
47 Posted 23/11/2019 at 23:59:39
If was pulling the strings in that disaster zone I'd be looking for a caretaker to see us through to the new year. We could then have a look who's available and who'd come to us?

Come the new year if we haven't got anyone permanently, the aformentioned caretaker needs the ability to finish us in 17th or above (and I'd gratefully take that right now!).

Many on here are saying Pochetino is in the Guardiola/Morinho/Klopp class, is he? He in my opinion has basically done a Moyes, he's been at a club and has achieved an average league position commensurate with the money he has spent without winning anything.

Benitez on the other hand has been there got the T-shirt and won, he's also got the experience of a dog fight at bottom and what it takes to bring a club out of the Championship. I doubt Poch would dare go near a club in the relegation zone for fear of a challenge.

Most will loathe him on here and allow passion to addle clear reasoning.

Come the new year he will available, but I think the club will pass him up. Expect Silva Mk2, the club I believe wants this kind of younger manager who's desperate for a chance and easy to control. What's Brands achieved in the world of football compared to Benitez, could he handle such a presence?

For all the problems we have now I feel very sad to say we are very capable of repeating them if we make a poor choice of the next manager.

Bill Fairfield
48 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:07:32
Please farhad lets sign a proven winner to manage out club this fellas a no mark it’s embarrassing
Mike Gaynes
49 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:08:48
Rob #47, no way to know if Moshiri and Brands rate Rafa -- no previous connection there.

But Rafa will be available, make no mistake, and well before the New Year -- the Chinese league season ends next weekend, and his Dalian side is in the bottom half of the table. For what they're paying him, there will be no tolerance of that. I predict they are already working on the buyout agreement and he'll be back in the Western hemisphere a week from Monday.

Jay Harris
51 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:16:50
Be in no doubt Kenwright is the man pushing things at the club and mugged Moshiri to buy the club, make him millions and still remain as chairman. You can say what you like about Mshiri being a billionaire he must be smart but to me he is too nice a guy especially in a den of vipers.

DBB is Kenwrights man (or woman to be politically correct) and the club is rife with Kenwright acolytes.

Thats the problem there is no clear direction or leadership at the top of the club.

I have a very good friend who is friends with Keith Harris and he told him that he was glad to be out of Everton. Its the most dysfunctional board he has ever worked with.

Rob Marsh
52 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:19:45

Can you think of any reason why we shouldn't go for Benitez? I can't. He's just too good to pass up.

To hell with what that lot think over the park or will say should he come. I feel sure he'd love to stuff them at Anfield while managing us.

Mike Gaynes
53 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:27:04
Rob #52, I'm no expert on managers. I'll happily leave it to Brands to make that decision. Whether he thinks Rafa or Poch or Kovac or somebody we never heard of is the best, I'll trust his judgement.

I will say that it doesn't bother me a bit that Rafa managed the RS or called us a "small club", which other folks here would consider a disqualifier. But I'm not a Merseysider steeped in the rivalry.

Mark Guglielmo
54 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:32:57
Cross-posted by me in the other threads...

Current odds for replacement managers for the 3 hot/vacant seats:

Poch 6/4

West Ham
Benitez 6/4

Moyes 1/2

You can take odds with a grain of salt, but they're a pretty solid indicator of what the public-at-large thinks. The ones not wearing blue-tinted goggles. I think you can see the differences between who they believe aligns where. We ain't at the top.

Rob Marsh
55 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:41:37

That's fooooking depressed me!

How the Fook can we end up with Moyes "Knife to a gunfight" while West Ham gets Benitez.

Right, where's the valium?

Andrew Lum
57 Posted 24/11/2019 at 05:17:30
I’m hoping that Brands, as DOF and a member of the board, will veto any attempt to reappoint Moyes to replace Silva. I can’t see the arrogant dinosaur working together with Brands. Moyes relegated Sunderland and was deemed not good enough for West Ham. I don’t think I will have the energy to carry on if he comes back, and after 37 years, I may just pack it in. Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
Paul Kelly
58 Posted 24/11/2019 at 06:00:05
Sean (best surname ever) Kelly. Well put.


Pat McKinlay
59 Posted 24/11/2019 at 06:00:58
Yesterday's game in my opinion was vital for Everton's season as to staying up or being relegated, and they failed the staying up part miserable.Yesterdays team pick will get Everton relegated because they were outplayed by the bottom of the league team who deserved to win the game, and

Norwich will be relegated, so even if you have been a lifelong Everton supporter it does not give you the right to play in the PL if you are not good enough, and the present Everton squad, many of them are not playing for Everton they are only interested in what day their wages will be deposited in their accounts. The manager should be sacked immediately sorry he is not good enough period.

Everton should make it a priority to get someone in there who hopefully will avoid relegation even if it's only in a caretaker role till the end of the season and then get a permanent manager over the summer who can turn Everton's fortunes around so the fans can look forward to next season ( we're have I heard that before)
Paul Kelly
60 Posted 24/11/2019 at 06:54:20
Do our board expect anything but awful performances when you hire an awful manager with a record of dog shit results?

Brown shoes, relegated Wigan, even Paul Jewel and Steve Bruce couldn't manage that fete. Koeman kept Southampton 'challenging' after selling all his best players. (Was that why he was hired)? And in Spain their was a big divide in the Spanish club he managed after winning the cup, I think, do we do due diligence here?

And on to Marco 'fuck up' Silva, relegated Hull, was awful at Watford, and equally as cack here. What did the board expect?, that he'd suddenly become good? Can't they see the woods for the trees? It's fucking embarrassing.

Look at Spurs, that's ambition, whether you agree or not. That's the way to go. The RS fucked off the irish/Scottish English speaking burnt lipped twat after coming second, but our managers 'get' Everton, so it's okay. Bollocks, get a winner in here, break the bank. Money talks.

Alan McCulloch
61 Posted 24/11/2019 at 08:55:58
An "Open Letter" sounds like it is from all ToffeeWeb subscribers. This is misleading and it is a poor decision to publish by whomever the ToffeeWeb editors/mediators are. (Wasn't it originally set up by a couple of middle class blues who used to work for Microsoft/IBM?) Anyway be careful what you wish for Trevor. I sounds like you would like to see Kenwright and Dunc gone. It sounds like you want to rip part of the soul out of the club, part of the soul and continuity that connects the club to the community and makes us different and unique. Yes it is difficult, we are struggling and it is not pretty to watch. For years we complained there was no money, no we have money, albeit little to show for it on the pitch. It will come, but not by ripping the soul out of the club. Stop whinging and get behind the board, and for Christ's sake stop moaning about Steve Walsh.
Derek Thomas
62 Posted 24/11/2019 at 09:26:59
Rob @ 55; Benitez may have worked miracles keeping Newcastle up, but he also took them down. The job Steve Bruce is doing there shows it wasn't too for that reason, his rs connections and small club comment, to name a few - I'm out.

I have an image of Moshiri bending over a bin us Obi Wan Kenobi. The force is not with us at all.

Sean Kelly
63 Posted 24/11/2019 at 09:32:47
Alan "part of the soul out of the club" does not mean Kenwright and Ferguson. FFS the soul of the club is the folks that turn up week after week home and away to watch shite. The believers, the dreamers and the decent folk that scratch together hard earned money to honour past players and hope the current crop realise their dream.
Kenwright has presided over three decades of misery and shit football. As for Ferguson jesus wept what the fuck is he doing there. Where is there evidence of his contribution. AS a former forward he should be dictating and putting his marker on our current strikers. They are cack.
As far as I'm concerned Kenwright can fuck off to his panto and Ferguson can fuck of to his birds.
This is a football club first and foremost. It is not a charity but is being run like one.
Widow twanky can fuck off and take alibaba and and bird man from alcatraz with him.
Mike Hayes
64 Posted 24/11/2019 at 10:06:35
Sean Kelly #29 well said couldn’t have put it better myself - Kenshite has been strangling the club since he conned his way into ownership has put nothing in (but offered Bury a million!) and was responsible for Mansur buying City, Kings Dock - destination Kirby etc, he’s a liability and a leach and one dick wanted a statue erecting to him FFS! Quicker he and the rest of the shite go and take Silva with him the quicker the club can move forward - nearly 30 years of hurt and absolutely nothing to show for it. Can’t see BMD being built with these clowns in charge. Not been to Goodison since first home game - I want to go but not with another proven failure in charge - heartbreaking!
Eddie Dunn
65 Posted 24/11/2019 at 10:22:37
The overall impression is that the Board have had a cozy, comfy time, all being nice to one another.
Their latest pet has shit in the kitchen too many times and nobody wants to clean-up the mess.
It is a shambles, a rudderless ship, with a daft old luvvy, whispering to a monied fool, who picked a manager who is woeful at his job.
Now it is time for Brands to take the lead, sound out potential managers and pick the right one.
John Kavanagh
66 Posted 24/11/2019 at 10:42:17
Alan @61. If Kenwright is the heart and soul of the club then we should do like the RS and sell it to the Devil in return for success.

Eddie @65. completely agree. There's no point in having a Director of Football if you still allow an old luvvie to make managerial appointments and recruit his old pals.

Ari Sigurgeirsson
67 Posted 24/11/2019 at 11:00:16
This politics comparison here is really funny. I feel sorry for the stupid Democrats. The current guy in the Oval (as one said) is a business man and first and foremost thinks about himself and what he owns. I like that thought regarding Farhad Moshiri and Everton. (which he owns) Get DJT in he would run Everton as a business that's for sure.

All in all I like your article Trevor and I like the thought that FM should do his business and not let BK chose managers and such.

take care, Ari.

Jeff Spiers
68 Posted 24/11/2019 at 12:09:25
Presidents, prime ministers are just puppets manipulated by a far greater evil force. Divide and conquer the masses. Left or right doesn't matter. Civil war then mop up the dead and what is left will be slaves. Agenda 21. For the time being let's concentrate on EFC
Charles Brewer
69 Posted 24/11/2019 at 12:52:15
If we look across the range of successful clubs in the Premier League era, we tend to see that they are the creation of one manager - Wenger, Ferguson, Guardiola, Mourinho, maybe we're seeing the same with Klopp.

After they leave, there is often a period of chaos and a string of failing managers who should, on paper, have much better performing teams than they do. The successors have the funding, the players and the organisation which delivered success. But success eludes them and often there are stories of malcontent players, unhappy dressing rooms and a general air of failure.

ManU has never recovered from Ferguson's reign, and show no signs of doing do even now. Chelsea has stuttered along after Mourinho's initial period, and Arsenal continues to have a hangover from Wenger.

I think Everton is, in a less elevated form, suffering from "post-Moyes" syndrome. Moyes was, in fact, a remarkable manager. With no funding and a very ordinary groups of players, he outperformed year after year. That he didn't win the Premiership is not to the point, he did significantly better, consistently that should have been the case. That the football was not great, that he had a KITAP1 mentality was not to the point, he played according to the assets he had and in a manner which was, in context, successful.

Successful managers leave deep impressions on teams. Since we have not yet seen any of the "top" clubs survive a succession from a successful manager, Moshiri is faced with a situation to which there is not an available example.

I suspect the only solution is a root-and-branch reformation of the club, a kind of Year Zero with the elimination of all Moyes era structures, staff and attitudes. This can probably only come with a new stadium and a complete change in management. Moshiri will have to be a very tough bastard to pull this off.

It may be unfair on Unsworth, Kenwright, Duncan Ferguson, and probably Seamus Coleman, Leighton Baines and others. But it is probably the only option.

Gerard McKean
70 Posted 24/11/2019 at 14:24:06
If two of the signs of a good article are the quality and the diversity of the responses it elicits from the TW faithful, then you've nailed it Trevor. I agree with most of your letter and I very much enjoyed the thread that has followed. You took a risk referring to the politics of another country but you were brave and honest in correcting your view of GWB.

I am going to match you now in taking the risk of referring to another American President and I hope I don't incur the wrath of the Blues across the pond. But I'm interested in their opinion.

Some, quite a few, of the posts make the case for root and branch reform of our football club, which those TW readers who are sick and tired of my views would no doubt agree that I could make this my specialist subject if were to appear on Mastermind (a quiz show on British TV). So it goes without saying that I believe such posts are bang on the money but what I just don't get is why Moshiri has not seen enough to take action.

So here comes the presidential reference by way of a little anecdote: when she first came to the club I was open-minded and optimistic that Denise Barrett-Baxendale could do some good. My high hopes did not last for too long as I watched a quite brilliant illustration of how flattery can take you a long way with some people and a simultaneous and equally effective exercise in empire building.

Watching this from close up and having no personal ambition to worry about I decided to give her a gift of a book I greatly admire and I enclosed with it a short letter explaining why I so like the book and why I thought she should read and take heed.

The book is called "Team of Rivals," by the outstanding American author Doris Kearns Goodwin, in which she paints a portrait of an outstanding politican and arguably the greatest of American Presidents, Abraham Lincoln. Kearns Goodwin's summative thesis is that by surrounding himself in cabinet with the very politicians who had run against him for the presidency, and in some case vituperatively so, Lincoln created a team at a time of major crisis that brought different ideas, views, and visions to the table but which, by his intelligent and magnanimous leadership, could be discussed without fear or favour until consensus was reached.

Needless to say the advice in my letter to listen to the message of the book was ignored. The CEO prefers the "my way or the highway" philosophy of management. Recalling the graffiti when Rooney went to MU, "You could have been a god but you chose to be a devil," I'm tempted to get my paint brush out: "You could have been a Lincoln but you chose to be a Dubya!"

At this time of our own crisis, the club and the Board are crying out for the voices of intelligent, creative Evertonians who welcome the challenge of listening to sometimes different voices and differing opinions. It is the interest of EFC which must be paramount.

Derek Thomas
71 Posted 24/11/2019 at 14:31:12
Nice one Gerard, could do with its own thread (MK?)

With regards to DBB, I keep getting Delores Umbrage flashbacks...not good.

Alan Smith
72 Posted 24/11/2019 at 14:33:02

This is the worst read I have ever had the misfortune of reading!

Before I mention anything football I think you should stop whatever it is you are doing and think about the million Iraqis that died because of George Bush and his great advisory team willing to drop bombs on kids to profit out of war. Not to mention the uk soliders who died. You my friend are a disgrace to mention that evil man in football forum.

As for alluding negatively on BKs role in all this I find strange because like or loathe the man, we were steadier under his stewardship with less resources to hand. Theres no evidence kenshite has any responsibility for the bad decisions being made. Its just to deflect from moshiri the messiah at all costs. We need balance, fact and evidence.

Bk hired Moyes and brought moshiri in ffs. And ket Moyes and RM get on with it without intervention.

Then you go on about moshiri's great investment. Investment is all relative. We still only pay the seventh highest wages like we did under kenshite.

Weve sold a 80m cf and our highest buy is 45m.

Under Bk it was £28m highest out and £28m highest in.

Im not disputing we needed moshiri's money as the game has got richer I'm trying to illuminate that its all relative. We still only budget to be 7th and not:

"restore us to the higher echelons of the game"

As you incorrectly assume. Again without evidence or fact to back up your statements.

Its moshiri who has also implemented the failed DoF model which hampered koemans strategy of bringing in witsel, depay and giroud. And has left silva without a cb, a striker and the injury prone cms of gomes(god bless him) and delph.

Silva makes that clear in the pre palace match press conference if you listen properly.

And whilst I don't blame silva he is actually the worst manager weve had and he was the man moshiri's wanted most.

You also hint at criticism of allardyce. A man who would have definitely got us to 7th and probably overchieved under these constraints if left on his own to buy players and organise the club. Just lije Leicester have taken advantage if utd, spurs and arsenal turmiol.

You criticise duncan ferguson a man who loves Everton and has all his badges and has been loyal to every manager he has worked under. And bringing rooney back woukd be "sentiment"??? The most skilful Englishman and clever player since Gascoigne? So our kids couldn't learn from him?

If like Moyes always said:

"you finish in the position relative to the size of your wage bill"

Then id rather do it without brands and without some fashional handsome Portuguese fucker with a cup to his name. I don't know about you but id happily do it with duncan and rooney as coaches under an arteta?

Or do you really think someone whos done alright at top Portuguese club or won something with psv can understand the simplicity of football better than Everton people?

Well they obviously they fucking cant and someone has to be honest with moshiri.

We don't need a fancy DoF. We don't need boss kids from abroad who arent really boss because juve didnt want them. Madrid didnt want them. He needs to be told go and get a 200k a week cf! For starters

Even Tim Cahill knew that. Costa. Do you remember?

Our wage bill is half the size of utds. So lets have half the squad size. Pay 18 players as much as utds highest 18. We can have two sub keepers, two veteran Bains like squad members and five good kids. Forget the cups until we are in the champions league. (unless you reach the quarters) Let your main 18 focus on the league. There's your advice moshiri. Oh. And let the manager manage.

Gary Hughes
73 Posted 24/11/2019 at 14:45:29
American politics? Seriously? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Our club is going down the shitter & people are discussing the merits of George fucking Bush!!!!!
Gary Willock
74 Posted 24/11/2019 at 15:50:08
So, he’s still here then.

Been really reluctant to look past the manager and players, but maybe it’s time to.

The split between manager and fans is irreconcilable. I hope Mr Moshiri doesn’t believe that anger won’t eventually boil over towards those above the manager. You can certainly already see it with some.

Mark Guglielmo
75 Posted 24/11/2019 at 15:59:33
Stopped by today and read comments about getting Trump in to run Everton like a business, and others lauding the influence of Kenwright.

I must need more coffee because I clearly typed the wrong URL into my browser.

Paul A Smith
76 Posted 24/11/2019 at 16:33:43
Alan spot on mate. Lets stick with right and wrong rather than who you like and who you choose to blame.

Interesting write up on our progression.

Andy Crooks
77 Posted 24/11/2019 at 16:58:29
Alan, your post @ 72 tops anything in terms of utter nonsense. You admire Kenwright, Allardyce, Rooney mk 2 and Duncan " the legend" Ferguson. Rooney was as you say the most skillful player since Gascoigne. However we had him when he was done, just like we had Gascoigne. Tell you what. Let's tell Moshiri to take his money away. Let's bring back Allardyce with the legend as head coach. Bring Rooney into the team.
Let Kenwright oversee it and, this is brilliance by the way, create a role for Gascoigne. FFS, he was a proper Evertonian, he has fallen on hard times. It's what we do. He can work with EITC along side Van Der Meyde.
Colin Glassar
78 Posted 24/11/2019 at 17:10:50
Talking of Big Sam, he was spotted in the Albert Dock area munching on a fish finger buttie (Liverpool’s greatest contribution to haute cuisine) with dollops of ketchup and mayonnaise. Coincidence or just a hungry man?
David Connor
79 Posted 24/11/2019 at 17:13:32
For god's sake please get rid of this imbecile of a man before we are at the point of no return. Time and again, we keep repeating the same sentence.

Mr Moshiri, do you really want Everton Football Club to become the next Leeds Utd or Nottm Forest because that's where we will be if you keep this man any longer. The whole future of our great club is solely in your hands. I really hope to god you make the right decision; if not, we are finished.

The whole sorry tale over the last few seasons is so so depressing. There are times when I wished I didn't like football. But I do, and I love my club. Do the players even know the meaning of a fan loving their club whoever they support. From my point a view I would say they haven't a clue. What a bloody shambles we are.

Paul A Smith
80 Posted 24/11/2019 at 17:22:49
Andy, Allardyce has arguably managed better players at Bolton than we have had in the premiership.

You honestly believe Okocha, Djorkaeff, Campo and Anelka played poor football.

The Allardyce stuff was a sheeps rhetoric that was started by Wengers whining because he couldn't bully his Bolton side.

Alllardyce plays to strengths simple as that, no matter if you like him or not.

You expected good football from the squad he had here? Do me a favour. One poisonous problem at Everton we hear far too much jargon to suit agendas.

Allardyce is also way ahead of many people on the sports science side of the game, something so important to the likes of Pep and Guardiola if you listen to them.

There is no comment more empty to me than expecting good football from the team Allardyce had.

Its like expecting this side to get champions league football.

Eric Paul
81 Posted 24/11/2019 at 17:31:45
Paul you’ve got to be kidding right,how many current internationals were in that Bolton side
Paul A Smith
82 Posted 24/11/2019 at 18:33:44
Eric yes I am joking, all a myth that those players were good and beat Bayern Munich away.

I still laugh at people thinking Anelka went to Chelsea after playing poor football and Gudjohnson to Chelsea and Barcelona after playing so badly for Bolton.

I think all of those players plus the goalkeeper and Stellios were either internationals or former and lets get real, the french had dozens in near every position to choose from, Djorkaeff was well capable.

Eric Paul
83 Posted 24/11/2019 at 18:58:27
So you want Allardyce back, if he doesn’t fancy it we could get mike Walker back as he also beat Bayern Munich
Alan Smith
84 Posted 24/11/2019 at 19:53:04

thsts a disgusting misrepresentation of what Paul said. You're better than that. You're an evertonian ffs

Andy 77

When did i say i admired anyone? I called bk kenshite. Rooney WAS a great player are you saying otherwise the article is about his stature as a coach. But whilst i wasnt saying he was great for us. I will add, in his last season for us he was leading scorer and gave us the goal of the season or decade. His amazing performance in that game possibly turned our season.

I never mentioned wanting allardyce back. I had facts and logical opinion about whats gone on. Feel free to blow them out the water. Rather than play the misrepresentation game.

I also said we needed moshiri. I just don't want to nosh him off for achieving nothing. Do you?

Paul A Smith
85 Posted 24/11/2019 at 20:08:18
It isn't even worth replying to that Alan. When hatred and obsession rule, civilisation is right out of the window.

Closed minded converstaion is one of the key wastes of energy.

Rob Marsh
86 Posted 24/11/2019 at 20:33:39
Silva now 1/12 to go, something imminent?
Eric Paul
87 Posted 24/11/2019 at 20:38:53
Alan and Paul
I am sorry if I have caused any offence but I fail to see anything disgusting or any hatred in my posts. I would be grateful if you could enlighten me to prevent it happening again.
Jay Harris
88 Posted 24/11/2019 at 20:44:58
I have heard he will be gone in the next few days but there is disagreement within the board as to that.

Allegedly they want to check the market before finally pulling the plug.

Alan Smith
89 Posted 24/11/2019 at 20:48:31
You purposely misrepresented what he said. maybe disgusting is too heavy a word eric. Apologies.

But at no point did paul ask for allardyce to return and throwing walkers name into the hat was diliberate misdirection because you couldn't find fault in the true essence of the point that paul was making.

Im not offended Eric. I wish you well!

Eric Paul
90 Posted 24/11/2019 at 21:42:07

His reply to Andy was a blatant sales pitch for Allardyce. I was simply pointing out he is not the only manager to beat Bayern Munich. Therefore, the fault lies in the essence of the ridiculous point he was trying to make. At no point did I purposely misrepresent what he said.

If he has a problem, let him fight his own battles.

Jonathan Tasker
91 Posted 24/11/2019 at 22:59:44
Until Kenwright goes, nothing will have changed.

Nobody will succeed under Kenwright.
Moshiri is a fool to have retained Kenwright. I think we can all guess what Ferguson is there for.

And Brands is a useless bastard to.

Infant I hope they all fuck off and take all the players too.

Colin Glassar
92 Posted 24/11/2019 at 23:04:33
How much has it cost us to get rid of Martinez, Koeman, Big Sam and now this fella? We could probably buy 1-2 decent players with the compensation we’ve had to pay these dickheads!
Mark Guglielmo
93 Posted 24/11/2019 at 23:13:12
Colin, if memory serves, roughly £35m or so. Maybe a touch less.
Barry Jones
94 Posted 24/11/2019 at 00:00:03
Mike Gaynes, why doesn't our number one US fan, Sly Stallone take over? He will have us punching above our weight.
Paul A Smith
96 Posted 26/11/2019 at 11:29:58
Eric what are you talking about. Like I said your obsession and hate for Allardyce gave you the opportunity to decide I wanted Allardyce back.

Absolute nonsense and if you read previous posts on other threads you would know I have no affection for any manager. Except Howard Kendall.

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