Wolves vs Everton, Carabao Cup: Player Ratings - Rotations and scrappy performances lead to cup exit

The rest were abject that started that game.

We need to look for takers in January for Iroegbunam, McNeil and if any striker options come available, I'd look at getting either Beto or Barry moved on, sometimes you need to just cut your losses, Moyes did as much with Per Kroldrup.

We've got no pace on the flanks and I include fullbacks in that.

Criminal that we failed to address those area's.

Ludicrous decision to change so many players for a team that allegedly has aspirations of winning a trophy.

For a manager who has been on the end of so many avoidable cup defeats - LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN.

Might as well forfeit our place to someone in the non league and give them a shot at it.

Everton for 30 years now have given up on the Cups, we have had one Cup Final in 30 years, how disgraceful is that I ask you.

A club that's been ever present in the top flight and the loyal fans have had one Cup Final appearance in 30 years.

West Ham is an important game. But if we don't win, I'd move Moyes upstairs and give the managerial role to Nuno Espírito Santo.

We need a younger manager with a different approach and tactics.

He was amateur hour. Failed to properly parry on the first goal and absolutely mucked the second. Stranded himself like a salmon on a beach.

Since we didn't loan out Tyrer for some reason, bring him in as #2 and pick up a new keeper in January.

Wolves were marginally better than us but were poor. We are known for conceding poor or soft goals. Is this the same Moyes who had a fantastic record in the second half of last season?

It was a perfect opportunity, an opponent with no confidence at all, a half-empty stadium packed mostly by the away following, and they've failed to impress.

I doubt we'll be seeing the likes of Barry, Iroegbunam or Charly in the starting line-up anytime soon.

The inclusion of Seamus Coleman... was what really, pure sentiment? This isn't a player who can perform at this standard anymore sadly for Seamus.

I also didn't get the McNeil selection. A player Moyes clearly doesn't want, has zero future plans for. I couldn't work out the logic in starting him and he looks like a player that's done at Everton.

Why throw this Cup? We haven't won a trophy for 30 years, we haven't got any European football, we don't have too many matches, it's just bizarre.

The feel good factor after moving to the new stadium, they should have been busting a gut in this cup and seeing if we could have gotten another home draw and gone really far.

Nothing changes at this club.

For the second match in a row, his tactics were dreadful. For a club who could realistically only go for a good cup run, that was an abysmal team selection and once again a total failure to go after teams until we go behind.

I will say it slowly in case he is reading... We are not good enough defensively to allow teams time and space to play in front of us.

Keane will ball watch, O'Brien is not a fullback, Tarkowski goes missing too often, Coleman either plays or retires, he needs games or to be put out to grass. Mykolenko and Patterson on the bench?? And the keeper? Jesus.

With the talent we do have, we have to break teams down in midfield and move 30 yards up the pitch, hassle from the front in their area, and they will make mistakes. It's our only attribute.

Moyes's mentality is "Let's see how it goes and change it if we need to." Except he doesn't change it till it's too late. Let's see how it goes... it fails. (Knife to gunfight!)

Unless he changes, he can book an extra-long Christmas break.

People say Moyes should have started with certain players or replaced this player or that, but he has a squad not just a team and he has every right to expect every one of them to turn up and play professionally.

Not one of them did that last night, so each of them need to accept the responsibility for that as much as Moyes. A manager can only do so much.

Agree and disagree with those sentiments.

I wouldn't have changed the goalkeeper if I was Moyes and I wouldn't have been starting Coleman at all, certainly not at left back when Aznou is there.

I wouldn't have started McNeil either.

But yes, the likes of Barry, Alcaraz, Dibling needed to start, but they weren't exactly impressive.

Dibling is still 19 but, at £40M, you can fully understand there's a certain expectation from our fans to see something sooner rather than later.

Barry looks way way too lightweight at this level and looks very ponderous and quite slow.

It's easy to say our strikers don't get any service but good forwards get themselves involved in matches, you only need to look at Wolves' second goal, lad comes out of nowhere with a wonderful finish, hardly any service needed.

Hwang led the line for Wolves, hardly any service but at least he was capable of taking the ball down under control, killing some time for his team.

We've spent a combined £54M on two Bambi on Ice type forwards and have somehow lost 3 strikers -- regardless of the overall opinion on Calvert-Lewin, Broja and Chermiti -- and gone into this season with only 2 options.

Only Everton could run a business in this way.

Like others, I can't believe Moyes making those changes with the next game 6 days away.

Unfortunately we are still 3-4 transfer windows away from getting a team to get anywhere near a European spot.

You can have as many windows as you want but, if you don't address the biggest issues, then you carry on being the same.

We first identified the need to replace Coleman back in 2019 when we signed Sidibe on loan but, 6 years on, we still haven't come close to replacing him with an actual right-sided fullback.

We have needed pace in this side for about 7 years but we've never been able to find anyone consistently capable of providing it.

We've needed a proper centre-forward since Lukaku left in 2017, we've signed Moise Kean, Cenk Tosun, Sandro, Josh King, Broja, Chermiti, Beto, Barry...

That's how many chances in transfer windows we've had to rectify it.

Coleman, Iroegbunam, Barry, Alcaraz, McNeil were all way, way off the pace, and offered us precisely nothing. An absolute joke that we fall apart in the middle with no 36-year-old Gana.

Once again, a reserve keeper has come in, and played poorly for another cup exit. Poor save parried away into the danger zone, no left back to cover Keane. 1-0 and Wolves have offered nothing.

Players and selection cost us, against a side going nowhere.

Absolutely fuming -- and I feel sorry for the fans who travelled once again.

Piss poor Everton. I don't expect anything from Anfield, but I do expect some fight in a cup.

You can blame the squad, Jim, but we have the players to beat Wolves (as we did a few weeks ago). Moyes just didn't select them.

If the manager was serious about winning that cup, Ndiaye and Grealish start and the game plays out very differently as a result.

It is a case of Moyes prioritising finishing, say, 9th instead of, say, 11th in a season where we are not going to get relegated or make the Europa League places. Pointless.

You probably wouldn't want to rush Mykolenko into two games in the space of a few days. But if your approach to the Carabao Cup is to give the squad a run out, then why would it be Coleman instead of Patterson out of position or Aznou in position?

As it is, we're out of the competition and there are two players on the bench who are no closer to actually providing bench strength. The player who got a run is the one who won't be risked in the Premier League anyway.

Momentum is a good thing in football. I think we lost a lot of it last night. Any talk of taking the cups seriously is just garbage in my opinion after that performance.

Wholesale changes made, a 36-year-old right back starting in his place and then a half-fit Mykolenko coming on as a sub.

Again, how much did we play for Aznou?

Another player that we have spent some money on, the cash could have been put towards a player who was ready.

I predict he won't score for us and he will end up being 'homesick' very soon.

Barry is not a Premier League striker, he's all over the place and doesn't seem to be able to head a ball to save his life.

Aznou now seems to be our 4th-choice left-back, even behind two players who have been played out of position.

Travers is what you get when you need a backup keeper who knows he's never going to challenge your Number 1 and you don't have European football to boost his game time.

He made a huge mistake last night with that selection, we have 5/6 days until the next game, playing Coleman left back, what on earth was that about, round pegs, square holes mentality of the club strikes again.

Moyes did not send out a team to challenge Wolves. He did not send out a team to develop depth in the squad either, hence the poor rating.

It would have taken a lot of luck for Everton to win that game the way they were set up and that was solely what Moyes was counting on.

It won't cost him a second thought that Everton are out. Some of the players know that. The performances won't count one iota to their selection position in the squad.

That's a one point (just for being there) from me.

My fears on Dibling is that he's one for the future. We needed a right winger for the here and now, and we didn't get one.

Alcaraz continues to flatter to deceive, and McNeil looks done.

I just said the same thing on Twitter to Chris Beesley (Echo).

It is not pointless, it is less work.Even I am surprised that Moyes could be so cynical.

The Carabao Cup has no power to sanction such Managers.

Moyes objective is a top half table finish.A squad to Europe is not being looked at.TFG may have it in their Strategic Plan, but Moyes is not going to bust a gut.The players were prepared for nothing.

I do wonder though who is in charge of our recruitment team, we seem to be concentrating on bringing young players in, Barry, Rohl, Dibling and Anzou these don't look to me like Moyes buys. Normally the players he has bought in the past most have been ready for the first team, yet obviously these younger players don't look ready. Now seeing Moyes may only get a limited time why would he buy so many youngsters who might take a season to be ready, and some might not make it at all. Felt a bit sorry for Dibling he looks like a rabbit in the headlights, wanted to play th esafe pass rather than take on defenders which is normally his strength.

We've always loved going backwards to ex players, managers etc

We went back for Howard Kendal three times and the third time was insane because it became apparent the second time around that it wasn't going to be the same.

We've dished out over the years so many new contracts to players that had little more to offer, and their powers had waned so much but we couldn't see past that.

Coleman has been a wonderful stalwart, he's been a long serving player for us but fundamentally he's been finished now for the best part of 6 years, the legs were going when he hit 30, the style he made his trademark running up and down the flank, he couldn't do anymore.

It's on us that we haven't replaced him, it's our own inability to find a suitable replacement.

We've been very poorly managed off the pitch for a long time if we are truthful.

As I say, we still haven't addressed the lack of pace, an issue which has been there for years too.

Its why I wished we could have got Kubo in the summer, a player that would have matched the work ethic that's needed as the Asian players seem to have that in them, and also the pace.

We must be the only club that keep spending so much money to just end up back at square one.

In his press conf pre the derby he just complained all the way through it.

" They bought one player for more than all the ones we did put together"

"We need better players"

"We need a squad"

"We need Ronny Corbetts hand up my arse"

He has never come out and said anything that could keep or lift ALL of the players spirits to high and hopeful.

Sky have ensured its impossible to watch the carryon cup in Spain, and having read the reports I am glad.

Hugely disappointed in the disdain shown to fans.

That selection was woeful.

He ought to feel ashamed of himself today.

He should have told fans not to bother or waste their hard earned money. Dont make the effort because the players wont, and he hasnt. It was always going to be a defeat with little concern and much indifference.

Regards players, Patterson must feel ashamed by now.

Why buy Aznou and not play him. Loan him out if he is that far off. Same with Badass Barry. Why the hell buy a duffer yet another duffer. Its beyond a joke.

I have said from the off Tim is not a PL player and yet hoped to be proved wrong. No such luck.

We bought in 3 keepers. Why ? If the best of those is Travers then TFG give Moyes the gloves and stick that miserable twat in goal.

Enough has been said about the clubs habitual failings.

Moyes WAS to blame for The Derby and Last Night.

He cannot make excuses. He put out a fred carno team. Showed the supporters what he thinks of them and should man up and quit if he doesnt like his lot.

The old codger is stuck in his ways and will never change. Its more luck than managerial anything we've won a couple of games so far.

Without Grealish and Pix, we'd be sunk.

Beto is average and isn't going to improve soon. Barry still adjusting. But bear in mind we have a manager who operated with Marcus Bent alone up front one season (and finished 4th somehow!)