Moyes would consider Goodison return

Also Andrew Presly disagrees that they were 11 great and successful years. There were about 4 good ones between 2004 - 2012. Good. Never great.

Villa Celtic or Newcastle for David Moyes. Anywhere but here or they're not getting a penny from Andrew Presly!

I wish the media would get off this bandwagon. He's not coming back unless we get truly desperate but I can't see that happening.

I cannot forgive the way he sneaked off behind our backs to talk to Utd. The grass isn't always greener Mr Moyes. We stuck by you even in the bad years and showed loyalty, you didn't.
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His refusal to renew his contract which cost us a few bob in compensation also rankles me.

I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

Remember Ranieri was never going to win the league...

How did that work out David?

His time with Everton can be split into roughly two equal parts I think. The first half was by far the better part. The second half felt progressively grim and stale, when he got a fat contract and possibly complacent , or whatever. And the football got grim and stale too. I never felt he got the best out of his players but no doubt many would disagree.

But I really hope and pray he never comes back. I honestly believe that Everton will be the pinnacle of his career when he finishes.

Well I for one, even allowing for my bad memory, wouldn't give him a second glance. His behaviour leading upto, and immediately after, his leaving was unprofessional to say the least.
Jog on!

If it was up to Bill, he'd be in like a flash, we'd always get top eight, win nothing, talk about the lack of money and say he's better than Martinez.

A good manager at getting the best out of decent players, builds good solid teams. Never shown me any signs of doing any more. Terrible aversion to any raising of expectations. Spent his last three years telling us we should be grateful for his 'success' rather than telling us how he was going to take us forward.

If we've got a £100m war chest, I suggest there are better managers out there. Ones that have won trophies and not been sacked from their last two jobs.

No, no, please no!

Only, you're not 'under consideration' for the post.

Or at least .... you bloody well better not be!

No thanks. No more knives to a gunfight flannel.

No thanks, Dave... you cheating slag!

No complaints from me as to how he managed the club, given the hand he was dealt, in his time at EFC.

That said, there should be no way back into Everton for Moyes in ANY capacity due to his subsequent comments and conduct towards the club on joining the Mancs.

The day he is is the day we lose all sense of pride and integrity in our club.

Sacked unceremoniously from his last two positions, he is now officially a footballing dinosaur from a bygone era.

Never go back in football, we did it with Howard Kendall and ended up nearly emphatically disgracing a great man's legacy.

Leave Moyes in the past and remember him for what he did in guiding the sinking ship back to the surface in 2002 but let's not forget the limitations, never winning at Anfield in 11 years, no wins away to the so-called top four and no trophy.

We need to make a statement with our next managerial appointment not just an act of sentiment and go back to the safe waters of hovering below the unbreakable glass ceiling, let's get a manager who can actually smash through it.

He never had the money RM had either...

HOWEVER...he's a smarmy, United-loving, Fergie-bumming twat...he made his bed and he can fucking stay in it!

He's not some hero, but he's not worthy of this hate either. Of course he took the United job, so would just about any other manager in the world at any other club.

When he came to Everton we as a club were in a far different position than now, and so was the league. United and Arsenal, mostly United, we're winning every league title. There is a reason it was called the Big Four or Sky Four, it wasn't just Everton that couldn't crack that club. That's the way it was. There is a reason why this season has been such a shock and it's not only Leicester winning the league, it's because of the massive shake up throughout he league. It's not the norm.

Yes he was more pragmatic. But some of the football played toward the end of his time here was fantastic. It just was, and it was a hell of a lot better than what Martinez had us playing. Funnily enough, it was much like what Ranieri had his side playing, with the exception of Moyes persisting with the likes of limited players like Neville in midfield.

As I said, it's not like he was a Goodison God, but he did a very good job here, hence Ferguson naming him as his successor. He actually got a raw deal at United and Van Gaal hasn't done any better, despite Van Gaal spending hundreds of millions and Moyes not being given a transfer kitty.

Just calm down, this hatred is just a bit much. Ok, he left. So did Other managers. Or am I imagining that our beloved Kendall left us to go to Spain? The horror.

I wasn't 100% on De Boer but my thinking is now the quicker we get him the better!

Where's me gin.

He had team meetings with his NEW employers whilst still being paid handsomely by Everton.

Just Fuck off.

Plus I will never forgive him for his feeble attempt of poaching Baines and Fellaini for a cut price and publicly saying he would have accepted the bid!

And, no this isn't about 'hate' and I think anyone claiming so knows that. He did a solid job here, deserves plenty of praise for it, but we already moved on from David Moyes, just as he thought he'd moved on from us. None of it has since worked out for either party, us or him, and he's also since been sacked. Twice. Out of the running then, hopefully.

So.. let's enjoy the replays on youtube of that fastest FA Cup goal ever, thank DM for the buzz and all his hard work towards quite a few other good (close but no real cigar) days out, and then move on to find someone who might help us get that sort of hair-on-end feeling back again, but for a much longer-term future.

One 'small' thing (wibble).. talking about himself in the third person? WTF?.. ('What do you say to Mister David, Mister Hand-Sock?').. what, with Martinez' increasingly-deluded, as it became, 'Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Size 5', have our last two incumbents now totally lost the plot???

He should never return because:

1. He was extremely annoying in his management before he left (most wanted him out) e.g. pkaying favourites, rigid style, etc.

2. His arrogant and disrespectful manner during the Baines affair

3. He has been sacked from his last two jobs
.4. He is nowhere near good enough

And NO to Rafa and Jose too!

Twat. You. Moyes. Off. Miserable. Fuck. Second-rate.

By the way, you know who 'tells it like it is'?

Virtually no one.

People tell it like they think it is and if you agree with them, that becomes 'as it is.'

"Thing I like about that Richard Littlejohn talking about how much immigrants cost us, as oppose to say what corrupt banks, tax-dodging corporations and the Royals cost us, is he tells it like it is"

Etc

"Christ people calm down. This is starting to cross over from passion to insanity with some of the stuff being spouted... this hatred is just a bit much."

Hmmm... I think you are possibly the one who needs to calm down David.

The "stuff being spouted" in this thread is far from insane, or laced with hatred.

Many a poster acknowledge DM's good work, his straight talking and the consistently better quality of football in comparison to RM.

Many, quite accurately, recall the manner of his leaving and his subsequent comments and actions towards his employer of 11 years.

THAT's why many don't want him back. Nothing insane or hateful in that.

Since the Manure and Real Sociade disasters, and his still arrogant and somewhat patronizing stance of waiting for the right project to present itself , I see him as an arrogant prick who is so far up his own backside he can't see daylight.

Stay on the dole or go overseas seem to be his only options now, and that says it all.

He bought some of the best players we've seen recently for comparative peanuts Coleman,Arteta, Cahill, Jags, Distin and Stones to name but a few.

If he had had the financial support MArtinez had who knows.

He made it clear to the club he would not be renewing his contract welll in time for us to search for a suitable replacement and did not walk away from his contract like most do.

However he thought he was Johnny big time when he went to United and a different side of him came out and he looked down on the club that had looked after him for 11 years.

For that reason alone I do not want him back but please lets give the guy some credit for taking us from relegation fodder to keeping us top 6 while the likes of Hughes, Oneill, Allardyce and Pulis could not match him even with superior budgets.

Since the Manure and Real Sociade disasters, and his still arrogant and somewhat patronizing stance of waiting for the right project to present itself , I see him as an arrogant prick who is so far up his own backside he can't see daylight.

Stay on the dole or go overseas seem to be his only options now, and that says it all.

Since the Manure and Real Sociade disasters, and his still arrogant and somewhat patronizing stance of waiting for the right project to present itself , I see him as an arrogant prick who is so far up his own backside he can't see daylight.

Stay on the dole or go overseas seem to be his only options now, and that says it all.

Scary stuff indeed

Would certainly liven up ToffeeWeb. Again Moyes Appologists and the MOB fight it out only for Tony Marsh drop one of his his nuke bomb rants.

If Martinez was crap at handling the fans then Moyes was a true snake oil salesman and many on here bought it, our football was for the most part of 11 years was sterile and negative. Let's move on from the past, Martinez proved not to be good enough, but neither was Moyes.

I just wonder what he could do with substantial funds behind him because he did recruit some great players.

Really man? He bought Cahill, Baines, Lescott (who was a success and netted us a large sum when we were strapped for cash), Jagielka, Mirallas who was actually quite good before Martinez wouldn't play him, Yakuku scored goals, Andy Johnson scored us goals.

The whole point is that he really wasn't able to make "substantial buys". Fellaini was a success, that can't be debated. He bought Stones, not RM. Heitinga was our player of the year. So who are all these substantial buys that were failures, considering Fellaini was our record buy?

Who gives a fuck about him and his buys, either good bad or indifferent?

Let it go. He's not coming back(I hope!)

Of course he would be 'open' to coming back - just as he was so 'open' with us long before he fucked off to a 'bigger club'

If he is 'open' to suggestions could I perhaps very kindly tell him to sod off and find somewhere else that would welcome him with 'open' arms.

Sorry mate you had your chance, you pissed on your chips and now you can do one in the 'open' if you so wish.

Are you related to David Moyes or do you have some homeo-erotic crush on ginger scots, your delusions about his abilities appear boundless.

Sorry to break your heart Nick but if you want a really good defensive coach you would go for Benitez and no I don't want him either. It is a time to be bold not pine for an era (a decade and a bit) that yielded no trophies and no wins at Anfield, OT, Arsenal etc.

We desperately need some fresh thinking at boardroom level managerial level and from our own fans, 11 years without trophy not good enough, the last two years not good enough. We need someone who has proven they can win trophies regularly finishing 8th is not overachievement its fucking failure.

Again, Moyes is not a God and he is not one of the greatest managers in the world. But he is also not among the worst. No I don't want him back, I want to move on and go for one of the best. I want us to go after a Mourinho. But some of the stuff spouted about Moyes is just a bit ridiculous.

Moyse like every manager bought some duds but what about the following:

Nigel Martyn, Tim Cahill, Graveson, Andy Johnson, Lescott, Yakubu, Jags, Baines, Saha, Distin, Stones..............as well as who you mentioned, Arteta, Coleman and Peinaar.

I didn't by purpose put Phil Neville in that list but he did wear the shirt for us and gave 100% for his manager!

I don't see any failures in the list above, so it's a bit unfair to criticize his signings.

If you would have had any sense, you wouldn't have believed the hype about your real abilities, you should have realised that United was too big for you, still you were well paid for your failure at both united and the Spanish club.

If you ever come back, just to watch Everton I hope they make you pay to come in, you, like Billy Liar, was never one of us.

Never go back to an ex, never works. Move on, we are more attractive to better managers than many give credit to. This is not going happen folks.

We should go for Jose, he's a knobjockey of the highest order but I'd take that after two years of arsewaffle. He'd attract some quality players on Mosh's dollar, god knows we need them.

He was a good pragmatist in a difficult period for anybody outside the top 4.

It's a different era now though and I'm not convinced he'd attract talent - he really struggled at United.

I guess who we get depends on where Moshiri wants to take things - sensible spending, steady results and a new stadium ? Maybe Moyes would be attractive.

If he wants someone to manage a £100m spend though and see some quick success I'd look elsewhere.

Looking at the premiership table, Pochettino, Pelligrini or Koeman - or Ranieri obviously !

And given his third person references, he may be the man to get the best out of our floundering Senegalese forward

OFFM : "Now Laddie, David Moyes wants you to run the channels so we can hoof it from the back."

Oumar 'Terrible' Baye: "Niasse is strong. Niasse is fast. Niasse not let David Moyes down, boss."

Meanwhile, we couldn't do that simple task, even after 11 increasingly painful years from the Presbyterian disciplinarian who thinks these years were "great and successful". No doubt that memorable farewell from the duped Goodison faithful is still ringing in his ears... despite the depressing fact that WE WON ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!* I thought we'd had enough of managers spouting utter bullshit...

Even the thought of contemplating his return has me retching uncontrollably.

Just say No to mediocrity.

We don't want a megalomaniac like Maureen we want a good head coach for the footballing side of the club, not a powerful manager, those days are gone.

"If it doesn't work what can we lose?"

Games, money, players

The fact that he got better results than Martinez is irrelevant if we actually want to he successful.

It's ironic that people are flying out of the woodwork saying he didn't have he money Martinez had when the same people are using Leicester as an example of money not mattering.

Martinez had more money, but players are more expensive now. If you were buying Beattie, Johnson, Billy, Yakubu, they'd be costing more than £10m.

I don't blame him for going to Utd. It was a good opportunity and EFC were gullible enough to employ him before his move. I did object to his sniping comments when the crowd criticised him, telling us the we should be grateful and remember where we were before he joined. I just wished he could tell us how he was going to take us further, rather than have a pop at the paying punters.

I'm happy to remember the 4th place and that great season when we had the good euro run and played some great stuff, then consign him to history.

If we're the small club we deny we are, we'll welcome him back. I suspect Mr Moshiri has aspirations beyond top eight and will act accordingly.

Good for you if you were being sarcastic, you have, however sang the praises of Mr Moyes many times on TW over the years so perhaps you protest a little too strongly!and you are just a little excited at the remote chance of him coming back

"If you give David Moyes an opportunity he tends to rebuild a club"

Does he? Well he did it once I suppose. Does that qualify as a tendency though.

Anyway, rebuilding is all well and good but you wouldn't invite a bungalow specialist to come and have a crack at knocking up something 'a bit like the Burj Khalifa'.

"Oh aye, David Moyes has well and truly finished doon here. All built on really solid foondayshuns. Decor dead tasteful. Nawthing tae fancy mind. Simple. Sturdy. Loats of solid oak. A real mans hoose. Not something awl show off like that place Noel Edmonds and his big pink poof (Bawby? Bloaby? Naw, naw, Beattie!! Ay, Beattie. That was him) used tae 'party' and prance aboot in oan a Saturday night. Ah ask ye, hoo the hell can it be a prawper hoose party when they havnae even goat hoat dawgs on sticks, nevah mind any pissing petticoat tails?

Anyway, as ah said, David Moyes has done a superb joab getting the ground flawah awl sorted oot. I'm no just blowing me oan trampet either. I say's tae Steve Roond, I say's, "Roondy, is that they loveliest lower level of a new build you've evah seen or what, son?" and straightaway he say's back tae me, "Aye gaffer. That's the loveliest lower level of a new build I've ever seen". Like tawtally agreeing with me, ken? Then, you'll nevah guess what he said next. He goes...HAHAHA...he goes...HAHAHA eyyyyyyyy...Roondy, right, Roondy....because he tawtally agreed with me again.... he goes "You weak minded fool. He's using an old Gingeye mind trick"! He was doing ay impresshayun ay fookin Jabba They Hoot oot ay Return Ay The Jedi, but he says 'Jinji' instead ay 'Jedi', because ah've goat red hayer, ken? HAHAHAHA. He's some fookin crack that lad, ah'm telling yea!!

So, as ah say's, David Moyes done a bang up joab on the boattom flawah, a better joab than ay lot ay people could proabably do givin a comparable budget, ken? So now ah'm thinking why ruin it? Why would anyone wannae risk an overall soond and sensible structure by fannying aboot with stayers and all that shit, trying tae move oan tae the next level? Stayers are death traps, man. Try and climb some...even slowly... and yae could fall back doon and seriously injure yourself before you've even got halfway to that 'next level' heaven. It can happen. Remember Richard Wright? Fell doon a flight ay stayers four seperate times and ended up with hands like a fooking femidom filled wie broken Hoab-Noab biscuits.

Ah've given yea a lovely low ceiling that you can practically touch if yea stand oan yer tip toes, but it's strong and it'll nevah come crashing doon as long as yea dinnae try too hard tae smash through it. The way ah've set it all up is nice and snug but still with plenty ay room to manouver if you live within your means. It's that comfortable yea could spend ay good ten years or more sat in here withoot ever getting itchy feet or looking tae move up. Ah've already banged yae ay bathroom in doon here, just whack ay roof oan it as is and you're ready to go. Dinnae overstretch your resources. Keep some back for a rainy day.

Aye...alright...alright...Well, at least think ay the money you'd save by not needing to splash oot on ay pair ay ladders to reach your gutters and get bird shit oaf ah yea windaes. Some ay them are well over a hundred poonds in the Argos catalogue.

Och, fantastic. I knew you'd see sense in the end Bill. Now what show tune dae yae want for your doorbell?".

FUCK OFF Moyes, JUST FUCK OFF!!

The others you mention, well I'm not going to argue though most of them come for relatively small amounts. My point is, when he had relatively big money at his disposal he didn't really spend it well , particularly forwards. As I say I'm not convinced he would go and buy the big ego'd maverick who might take us to the next level but give him daggers when he said 'fockin' run the channel ye lazy focker,'

Nick, Link

Don't mention it.

Didn't like the exit and the summer transfer debacle that followed - but didn't stop me wishing him good luck at Real Sociedad.

However - I think I speak for most fans who can avoid the anti-Moyes rhetoric and appreciate what he did, when I say that a return would be the worse move the club could make (with the exception of getting the FSW or the Clown back).

I still think the powers that be often put out stories like this to get a quick view of our views on certain options for manager. David Moyes - thanks for what you did - but no way he can come back. Our aspirations are way beyond that now. NO, NO, NO, NO......to MOYES! No offence, but can we move on, Moshiri!

He was/would be better than Martinez, and better than De Bour... though its the TW article on the Dutchman that has convinced me of that. I otherwise know nothing of him.

Personally, if we could get Bielsa it would be a dream. The outsider, a radical, visionary.

Eugene, I think you wore that down to its last threads during 13/14 season. Choo choo, all aboard the Martinez train!

He might come in and do his version of Martinez's 1st season, which would be good for a one season quick fix...and then again he might not.

What the team Does need is a Moyes type pre season, but with the Euro's that won't happen...so what's the point.

Anyway way No, just No.

Right so it was only the budget that held Moyes back was it, so explain this Dr. Logic how come he fucked up at Man U so royally. He knew he was going there long before the end of the season he actually and with astute management and innovative tactics Man U were around 7th or 8th at the time of his departure. His time in Spain was hardly a success and he never got Preston promoted to the premiership did he, despite being in the play offs, so what exactly is his legacy anywhere?

He is no better than managers like Pullis, Watnock, Alladyce in fact they at least plied thier trade with less established clubs than Everton. Martinez deserved the sack he had his chance, but Moyes had eleven years and we never won anything,. His biggest crime however has to been systematically lower the expectations of many Evertonians to believe that watching negative, dry football was acceptable in the pursuit of let's face it sustained mid table mediocrity.

I suspect at least half the fanbase would be opposed but that has never put BK out in the least.

At least if it happens, ToffeeWebbers can look forward to the return of the Scot's arch disciple Doddy to these columns !

'Every cloud' as they say...........

Any person who talks about themselves in the third person likes the smell of their shit too much and should be avoided at all costs.

Moyes would love the job because no other club would be stupid enough to pay him £4m per year and put up with mediocrity.

Dont want him back though. On balance id still worry about big game bottle and like the idea of a new face, new ideas.

I cant understand anyone who would want this dithering backstabber back at our club. Who could ever trust him again after comments like these or the snidey way he spoke to Ferguson and then let his contract run down.

Hopefully the days of bringing knives to a gunfight are gone for good

Fucking big of him.

Let's find ourselves a proper winner this time.

Under Moyes we maintained our place in the top half of the table, but we didn't win anything (albeit we came close). We were difficult to beat, but we weren't winners. He left Everton and went to a club that could offer him more. He had ambition and went to Manchester United in a bid to achieve his ambition. He went to a club who he felt could give him something EFC couldn't and I don't blame him. It didn't work out.

Everton are now in a position to achieve their ambition and start afresh. Starting afresh means you keep the past in the past and move on. David Moyes moved on and so should EFC. I actually think Aston Villa would provide Moyes with a challenge and a brilliant opportunity to get back the respect he earned at Everton.

Moshiri thank god will steer well clear.

Anyway, it's my first comment on this web site be kind.

We keep saying we need a top class manager, but I think Royle and Unsworth could do a job, and know the club inside out.

Do you forget the way he arrogantly and smugly treated our Club when he got his "dream job"???

Dour shit, glass ceiling football. No thank you.

Give me fucking Roberto back before Moyes. He proved to be delusional but at least the fucker believed we could break the top 4, unlike Davey "knife to gunfight" Moyes.

And yes... he did do it once (break the top 4) but really? If you think this guy could repeat that feat...? Not a chance.

Celtic, Villa or a WBA is his level nowadays, he certainly will never get a top six club. His boat has sailed and it's got a big hole in it.

Last night Mourinho, tonight Moyes

I preferred last night's rumours

Despite Roberto's nonsense, FFS he's not allergic to bloody silver !

I've just scraped together the dosh for my fortieth seasy, but if we bring back Dreary McDreary, I'm off.

My mates take their kids to the match. FFS, if they bring him back..... I'm phoning Social Services !

Of course the ginger shithouse would jump at the chance of coming back, as no other club with any sense will touch him! Funny how it seems that even the likes of Aston Villa are avoiding dreary Davie like the plague? I doubt Celtic will look at him, but you never know with the Jocks.

Thank all that is holy that the decision on our next manager isn't solely down to Billy Bullshitter, and Moshiri is on the scene, otherwise I would be bricking it!

Move on, Moyes, you gobshite, we all have!

"Would David Moyes like to consider the option? Of course David Moyes would, they pay great and up until a couple of weeks ago David Moyes would consider the job the safest in the league. David Moyes likee!!"

Also Michael, Moyes has won nothing but he didn't relegate his former club so it evens out a bit.

Tony Williams has thought about his return and Tony Williams has decided against a future with that ungrateful twat in charge, so Tony Williams says No!

No thanks Dave, Celtic is calling!!

He would be a backward step in my opinion.

But anything is possibly while BK, still as a voice at the club.

Again ?? I'll grant you did a half decent job of stopping the rot at Goodison and subsequently "steadying the ship", but what did you do after Fergie flashed his eyes at you and you did one ? Zilch. A season to forget at Manure and then the sack in Spain.

Do one.

In that case, I look forward to a frustrated, hopping mad Moyes running out into the street, mid-interview, in his best Freemans Catalogue clobber, looking all sports-casual and shouting "SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MUTHA. Watch oot....this is cheese. Ah've goat cheese"

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He could have and should have signed a contract with BK who had supported him through thick and thin.

We would have had a decent chunk of compensation had he done this and he was well aware of that.
Of course we know that Ferguson told him not to sign a new contract.

He let Everton, the fans and the man who gave him his big chance down big time, and showed his true money grabbing colours.
Then he starts telling us we should be obliged to sell him players.

To be very polite - NO THANK YOU.

Tit

"An imagined day in the life of David Moyes"....except with zero imagination involved and just a lazy listing of 'David Moyes' constantly referring to himself as "David Moyes" in lots of everyday situations instead.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/news-opinion/paddy-shennan-me-myself-i-11343040

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